Hes just one of those people you cant replace.. That is the question we would ALL like to know, but the NTSB didn't even bother to go to the accident location. Thursday marks two years since deadly plane crash that killed Palermo Two bodies have been recovered from the wreckage of a plane that went down near Hackberry Tuesday, KPLC reports. A high-speed, vertical power dive could overspeed the prop, possibly causing something to let go. HACKBERRY, La. The private pilot and flight instructor were fatally injured. You are misinterpreting your RC observations.Aircraft would be falling out of the sly every day if throttling back blanked the elevator.The man actually is off on a crazy idea, but nonsense on youtube always finds devoted followers. Palermo was an instructor on the flight and Clements was a student. The Martin 404 aircraft was heading to . CG issue may be it. NEW ORLEANS The pilot who died in a Feb. 2 plane crash in Louisiana had just bought a share in the aircraft, and the other man killed in the crash was his instructor, the National. Investigators said there was so much damage it limited how much they could investigate. His most cherished hobby, passed on by his father, was flying. BATON ROUGE - A man arrested for running Saturday AM Forecast: Today's weather will be near perfect. Report: Plane nosedived, killed part-owner and his teacher Cameron Parish and Calcasieu Parish authorities worked throughout the night investigating the crash, but are turning over the investigation to a Federal Aviation Administration crew out of Baton Rouge and a National Transportation Safety Board team out of Dallas. This is certainly one of the most mysterious 182 crashes in recent history. Kerbow was an instructor for Clements, who was a newly licensed pilot. Would not expect a mayday transmission during a rapidly developing problem.Simplest accident viewpoint is that the elevator stayed streamlined behind the horizontal stabilizer during the dive. As expected, he didn't find it, just a lie told for clicks. Both men considered Palermo a close friend and mentor--the one theyd want on hand in an emergency. The plane would stall and fall without any elevator input at all. Palermo and Clements were aboard a plane like this Cessna 182 when they were killed. The grieving families need the analysis to be done on that blade. He was a member of the Civil Air Patrol, the United States Air Force Auxiliary, and held the rank of Colonel. They will update with funeral arrangements and honors at a future date. Forward CG would make the scenario begin as you describe, but airspeed increase in a dive from 4500 restores elevator authority with plenty of altitude remaining. It gave a number of details about the circumstances of the flight but did not indicate what caused the crash. In July of 1973, the National Transportation Safety Board ruled that Clemente's DC-7 was 4,200 pounds overweight, and that it had not been flown in over four months. CG was okay. Don was the epitome of what a student should be. A celebration of Dons life will be held on Saturday, February 6, 2021 at 3:00 PM at First United Methodist Church located at 812 Kirkman Street, Lake Charles, LA 70601. GREENVILLE, S.C. - No. The Veron Bice family is saddened by the loss of our founding partner, Rock Palermo. This proposed AD would require inspecting the tailcone and horizontal stabilizer for corrosion and cracks and repairing or replacing damaged parts as necessary. It gave a number of details about the circumstances of the flight but did not indicate what caused the crash. It may have required tools to get it out of the ground. Richard Don Clements, 55, a well-respected financial planner and talented musician, died on Tuesday, February 2, 2021 in an aviation accident. The Veron Bice family is saddened by the loss of our founding partner, Rock Palermo. The family respectfully asks that visitors wear masks and practice social distancing, adhering to local regulations regarding COVID-19. NORTH PLATTE, Neb. Environment workers die in plane crash on way to Ohio, spark conspiracies You made some very astute observations focused on elevator issues, compounded by the possible loss of a blade. I have been thinking the same, it's the only thing that makes any sense. Rock Palermo and Don Clements were killed in the crash, Johnson said. [3] Clements-Mann graduated from Texas Tech University in 1968 and received her medical degree from the University of Texas in 1972. The youtube guy's 3rd dramatic video came out but has no photo or any mention about the missing blade. Don was also a proud supporter of the Boy Scouts of America, and especially proud of his son, Will, becoming an Eagle Scout with Troup 5, which is associated with the First United Methodist Church. If that happened, NTSB examination of the connection points in the elevator controls for lost fasteners will find one. The plane, a single-engine Cessna 182 four-seater, crashed on a small island between Hackberry and Big Lake, near Pete Seay Circle. Two witnesses were in close proximity to the accident site, but different locations, stated that they observed the airplane in a rapid descent with the nose pointed at the ground. There is an FAA order (8020-11D) that outlines the entire concept of the hand-off of certain accident investigations. Cameron Parish and Calcasieu Parish authorities worked throughout the night investigating the crash and will turn over the investigation to Federal Aviation Administration investigators from Baton Rouge and a National Transportation Safety Board team out of Dallas. The plane then submerged, hetoldThe American-Press. No CFI would loop or allow his student to loop a 182.Not surprised that your "gut feeling" was criticized. Palermo was a local attorney at Veron, Bice, Palermo & Wilson and was a pilot with the Calcasieu Parish Sheriffs Office. Don was honored in 2015 as a Duke by the Krewe of Mystique for the many contributions he made to the community. Another partial owner of the plane told investigators that the pilot had just bought a share of the aircraft and was accumulating flight hours to get rated for complex and high-performance planes, according to the report. It said the plane was traveling about 4,500 feet above ground as the air speed decreased and began a slow descent. Rocks friends numbered in the thousands, and the family wishes it could acknowledge everyone who impacted Rocks life. Hackberry plane crash? | Page 4 | O-T Lounge - TigerDroppings Luke Air Force Base jet crashes near Buckeye; investigation underway Would like to ask for a line of discussion about the lack of a mayday call, which hasn't been previously discussed in this thread. Single engine, one of the most reliable planes on the planet. When Don wasnt involved in hunting, fishing, and music, he was at home in his beautiful rose garden and vegetable garden, which he nurtured in order to bring fresh roses and vegetables on a regular basis to his beloved wife, Nancy. Calcasieu Sheriff holds news conference on deadly plane crash Carbon Monoxide poisoning possibly? If they weren't stuck with tunnel vision grip on full aft yoke, they could have pushed forward and added power to get the tail plane flying again and regained control. Authorities first got a call around 5:47 p.m. Tuesday of a plane flying low, then disappearing, Johnsons said. She died in the 1998 crash of Swissair Flight 111 with her husband, Jonathan Mann, while traveling to a World Health Organization meeting in Geneva. Thrown blade and resulting immediate out of balance could have ripped an engine mount, canted the engine in some way creating horrendous aerodynamics and an unrecoverable dive? Richard Don Clements, 55, a well-respected financial planner and talented musician, died on Tuesday, February 2, 2021 in an aviation accident. or a practice incipient spin, that got the spin stopped , but the nose did not come up, due to forward c of g? Id say he just wasnt able to retrieve from wherever it was. Calcasieu Sheriff Tony Mancuso got emotional while speaking Wednesday morning at a news conference. More people need to call out their dereliction of duty. Smoke billows after a small touring plane crashed over the San Donato Milanese district in Milan. On Sept. 10, the plane, a Aerofab Lake LA-4-250, N1401P was found near the . BATON ROUGE - One week into Lent and the crawfish market is seeing one of its first significant drops of the season. GREENVILLE, S.C. - No. Rock Palermo and Don Clements were killed in the crash, Johnson said. whatever you told him to study, he studied it. Bold criminal secretly relaunched massage parlor prostitution ring as he cut a Federal, local dollars at work clearing waterways in EBR. On Feb. 2, 2021, an aircraft went down, killing both men on board, Rock Palermo and Don Clements. The empennage was crushed and distorted. His 25 pound mass half scale model Spacewalker is just six percent of half the mass of the 800 lb full scale Spacewalker. Copyright 2021 KPLC. BATON ROUGE - Friday, the LSU Tigers participated in the Podium Challenge, a gymnastics club meet featuring teams from California, Washington and George Washington Universities. The sales broker for the plane told investigators that on the day of the crash, the pilot reported completing a one-hour flight to meet insurance policy requirements. The wreckage was recovered to a secure storage facility where an engine and airframe examination was completed under the supervision of a Federal Aviation Administration inspector. Baseball star Roberto Clemente dies in plane crash - HISTORY In 2012 Don completed a lifetime goal of traveling to Africa and climbing Mt. He's blaming the crash on the theory that the three-bladed prop at idle created a flat disc effect that stopped air flow to the elevator and recovery from a stall.I know about a three-bladed prop having a flat disc effect at low throttle from my experience with giant scale model planes. NTSB, do your job. (KPLC) - Two bodies have been recovered from the wreckage of a plane that went down near Hackberry Tuesday, Cameron Sheriff Don Johnson said. FAA training on proper inspection practices details a disconnected C182 "up" elevator control connection true life incident in this document:https://www.faasafety.gov/files/gslac/courses/content/37/561/ffp.htm. A comment was made about the NTSB being derelict in not actually visiting the accident site. Palermo and Clements were killed when their Cessna. The sales broker for the plane told investigators that on the day of the crash, the pilot reported completing a one-hour flight to meet insurance policy requirements. 2:22. If Rock couldnt recover from this, I dont think anyone else could, said Kerbow. You have permission to edit this article. Shortly after stopping at Felts Field to refuel, his Piper Malibu Mirage crashed north of East Sprague. The Tigers beat out No. Either the pilots made no control input to the elevator or it was mechanically disconnected or impeded.There is a remote possibility that a thru-bolt vibrated out of a connection near the yoke and forward elevator bellcrank, having spun off it's castellated nut due to a omitted cotter pin.What source of vibration could suddenly finish shaking loose an unsecured control connection as they recovered from a practice stall? But it is accidents like this that really perplex me and keep me up at night. The engine was unable to rotate through due to the impact damage. Two witnesses told investigators that the plane plunged nose-down, without any rotation. This seems mechanical or structural based on the flight path which, hopefully, NTSB will clear up if so. Palermo was an instructor on the flight and Clements was a student. An avid SCUBA diver and instructor, Rock first met Kim while teaching her SCUBA diving class. The report did say that one of the propeller blades was not recovered. 60K views, 69 likes, 95 loves, 363 comments, 164 shares, Facebook Watch Videos from KPLC 7 News: Calcasieu Sheriff holds news conference after deadly plane crash near Hackberry. Don was a talented guitarist and was a treasured member of the worship team at First United Methodist Church. Unlikely, but it is a possibility. Both men were well known in Southwest Louisiana and had touched the lives of many. These are the ones that really concern me. Daniel Dal Zennaro/EPA-EFE/Shutt. Mancuso apologized for his demeanor and outburst of emotion during the conference. File photo of police lights (iStockPhoto). HACKBERRY, La. The plane, a single-engine Cessna 182 four-seater, crashed on a small island between Hackberry and Big Lake, near Pete Seay Circle. Select from these options: Breaking News, Evening News Headlines, Latest COVID-19 Headlines, Morning News Headlines, Special Offers, Scene of plane crash near Hackberry in Cameron Parish February 3, 2021. Nose down attitude would be even more likely that the pilots were fixated on full aft elevator. We appreciate everyone's prayers Clements was a financial planner with Global Asset Management. Kathryn's Report: Cessna 182Q Skylane II, N4765N: Fatal accident Don Clements will be having a visitation from 12 p.m. to 3 p.m. on Saturday, February 6, and funeral at 3 p.m. Click here to see Calcasieu Parish Sheriff Tony Mancuso and District Attorney Stephen Dwight speak about what it was like to know Rock Palermo. (KPLC) - Two bodies have been recovered from the wreckage of a plane that went down near Hackberry Tuesday, Cameron Sheriff Don Johnson said. Also, the known aeronautical capabilities of one of the pilots, a CFI, who was well respected at the sheriff's office as their Chief Pilot do not point to pilot competence issues. Flight instructors consider Palermo a friend, mentor and best pilot I suggested this in comments a couple of other places, and every time I've gotten ripped on about how wrong I was, and I probably am wrong, but I had a gut feeling about this when I first heard of it, two guys in a modern regular nothing special airplane doing minor training, returning to the airport, aircraft was 4,000 AGL then inexplicably nosedives into the ground, severe clear visibility calm winds, no obvious weather or mechanical reason for the crash.